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	<title>Comments on: Holly versus Melissa: not actually a contest</title>
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		<title>By: Little Willow</title>
		<link>http://www.yanewyork.com/2008/07/holly-versus-melissa-not-actually-a-contest/#comment-612</link>
		<dc:creator>Little Willow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have enjoyed all of Holly&#039;s novels to date, with Tithe being my favorite of her faery trilogy. I also thought The Spiderwick Chronicles, co-authored by Holly Black and Tony DiTerlizzi, were adventurous and fun. I&#039;ve read WL, but not yet Ink Ex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have enjoyed all of Holly&#8217;s novels to date, with Tithe being my favorite of her faery trilogy. I also thought The Spiderwick Chronicles, co-authored by Holly Black and Tony DiTerlizzi, were adventurous and fun. I&#8217;ve read WL, but not yet Ink Ex.</p>
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		<title>By: brina</title>
		<link>http://www.yanewyork.com/2008/07/holly-versus-melissa-not-actually-a-contest/#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>brina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. Can&#039;t believe I called you Book &quot;Chick,&quot; Book Chic ... sorry, didn&#039;t check my spelling. 

Serafina, please do read the HDM trilogy. It&#039;s awesome and you will love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Can&#8217;t believe I called you Book &#8220;Chick,&#8221; Book Chic &#8230; sorry, didn&#8217;t check my spelling. </p>
<p>Serafina, please do read the HDM trilogy. It&#8217;s awesome and you will love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Book Chic</title>
		<link>http://www.yanewyork.com/2008/07/holly-versus-melissa-not-actually-a-contest/#comment-275</link>
		<dc:creator>Book Chic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Book Chick, sweetie, we’re friends on FaceBook!&quot;

Oh god, we ARE?! I didn&#039;t know this. I mean, I have a ton of friends on there and I barely know who&#039;s on the list. Once I get on facebook later tonight, I&#039;ll look around for ya.

Also, Kandide gets better in the second half; the MC does change, which is a great thing cuz sometimes I was seriously wanting to strangle her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Book Chick, sweetie, we’re friends on FaceBook!&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh god, we ARE?! I didn&#8217;t know this. I mean, I have a ton of friends on there and I barely know who&#8217;s on the list. Once I get on facebook later tonight, I&#8217;ll look around for ya.</p>
<p>Also, Kandide gets better in the second half; the MC does change, which is a great thing cuz sometimes I was seriously wanting to strangle her.</p>
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		<title>By: Serafina Zane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serafina Zane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, not so much anymore, but there was an entire summer (as in, the last one) that I spent obsessively refreshing Westerblog, which is pretty much where i got my start on this whole book-blog-osphere. 

*bows head in shame* and i must admit that the Serafina is not a Phillip Pullman tribute. And that I am a very strange, horrible person who has still not read His Dark Materials. In my defense, and odd coincidence, The Shadow in the North is sitting right next to me, half-done, but that&#039;s sort of unrelated. The Serafina Zane is actually a tribute to a character from one of my old stories of the same name. Ah, Sera. She was cool. Could conjure lightning. 
I should work on that more...*wanders off to laptop*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, not so much anymore, but there was an entire summer (as in, the last one) that I spent obsessively refreshing Westerblog, which is pretty much where i got my start on this whole book-blog-osphere. </p>
<p>*bows head in shame* and i must admit that the Serafina is not a Phillip Pullman tribute. And that I am a very strange, horrible person who has still not read His Dark Materials. In my defense, and odd coincidence, The Shadow in the North is sitting right next to me, half-done, but that&#8217;s sort of unrelated. The Serafina Zane is actually a tribute to a character from one of my old stories of the same name. Ah, Sera. She was cool. Could conjure lightning.<br />
I should work on that more&#8230;*wanders off to laptop*</p>
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		<title>By: brina</title>
		<link>http://www.yanewyork.com/2008/07/holly-versus-melissa-not-actually-a-contest/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>brina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Book Chick, sweetie, we&#039;re &lt;i&gt;friends&lt;/i&gt; on FaceBook!

Serafina, maybe you&#039;re on Scott Westerfeld&#039;s blog sometimes? I just know that I always instantly recognize your lovely Philip Pullman nickname. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book Chick, sweetie, we&#8217;re <i>friends</i> on FaceBook!</p>
<p>Serafina, maybe you&#8217;re on Scott Westerfeld&#8217;s blog sometimes? I just know that I always instantly recognize your lovely Philip Pullman nickname. <img src='http://www.yanewyork.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Serafina Zane</title>
		<link>http://www.yanewyork.com/2008/07/holly-versus-melissa-not-actually-a-contest/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Serafina Zane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i&#039;m pretty much everywhere. *laughs* 

and Suburban Glamour is *supposed* to be available in the US as a trade already, I&#039;ve been trying to get ahold of it. should look into that again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i&#8217;m pretty much everywhere. *laughs* </p>
<p>and Suburban Glamour is *supposed* to be available in the US as a trade already, I&#8217;ve been trying to get ahold of it. should look into that again.</p>
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		<title>By: Book Chic</title>
		<link>http://www.yanewyork.com/2008/07/holly-versus-melissa-not-actually-a-contest/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>Book Chic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kandide is good, sorta in the middle really. Not terribly good, but not horribly bad either. Just kinda meh. I&#039;ve not been too impressed by it, mainly because the main character Kandide is such a self-centered brat that it&#039;s almost a pain to read it sometimes.

Do you have the same hatred for facebook that you do for myspace? I&#039;m on facebook as well, and import my blogs from myspace onto there. Pretty much, all I&#039;m getting at here is that I&#039;d love to hear your comments on my blog entries, haha. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kandide is good, sorta in the middle really. Not terribly good, but not horribly bad either. Just kinda meh. I&#8217;ve not been too impressed by it, mainly because the main character Kandide is such a self-centered brat that it&#8217;s almost a pain to read it sometimes.</p>
<p>Do you have the same hatred for facebook that you do for myspace? I&#8217;m on facebook as well, and import my blogs from myspace onto there. Pretty much, all I&#8217;m getting at here is that I&#8217;d love to hear your comments on my blog entries, haha. <img src='http://www.yanewyork.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: brina</title>
		<link>http://www.yanewyork.com/2008/07/holly-versus-melissa-not-actually-a-contest/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>brina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Book Chic: I need to read &lt;i&gt;Kandide&lt;/i&gt; in a major way. And I do have MySpace, but I haven&#039;t used it in ages. I&#039;ll friend you, but alas ... that won&#039;t get me back into the habit of using the website I have deemed to be the most evil of evils. 

Melissa: I totally get what you&#039;re saying about not wanting to go into too much detail with explanations and so forth. It&#039;s definitely better, I think, to err on the side of frugality-of-words than to err on the other side. The one that means you end up with a book that is 700,000 pages long. Speaking of which, if you come back and read this, we should totally play Twenty Questions (my preferred interview format) or something. E-mail me, yah? It&#039;s brina AT yanewyork DOT com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book Chic: I need to read <i>Kandide</i> in a major way. And I do have MySpace, but I haven&#8217;t used it in ages. I&#8217;ll friend you, but alas &#8230; that won&#8217;t get me back into the habit of using the website I have deemed to be the most evil of evils. </p>
<p>Melissa: I totally get what you&#8217;re saying about not wanting to go into too much detail with explanations and so forth. It&#8217;s definitely better, I think, to err on the side of frugality-of-words than to err on the other side. The one that means you end up with a book that is 700,000 pages long. Speaking of which, if you come back and read this, we should totally play Twenty Questions (my preferred interview format) or something. E-mail me, yah? It&#8217;s brina AT yanewyork DOT com.</p>
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		<title>By: Book Chic</title>
		<link>http://www.yanewyork.com/2008/07/holly-versus-melissa-not-actually-a-contest/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Book Chic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoy them. I haven&#039;t read too many that really focus on faeries, but some of them do have that tiny little twist to them (Girlwood by Claire Dean was like that). Right now though, I am actually reading a faery-centric book called Kandide and the Secret of the Mists (review hopefully up tonight- btw, Brina, do you have a myspace? You should add me on there if you haven&#039;t already).

But I do enjoy the whole faery lore and all that because I like reading about paranormal books. It gives it that fun, ethereal feel to the reading experience, and I love that.

I hope that answered your question- it felt like I was just rambling on, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoy them. I haven&#8217;t read too many that really focus on faeries, but some of them do have that tiny little twist to them (Girlwood by Claire Dean was like that). Right now though, I am actually reading a faery-centric book called Kandide and the Secret of the Mists (review hopefully up tonight- btw, Brina, do you have a myspace? You should add me on there if you haven&#8217;t already).</p>
<p>But I do enjoy the whole faery lore and all that because I like reading about paranormal books. It gives it that fun, ethereal feel to the reading experience, and I love that.</p>
<p>I hope that answered your question- it felt like I was just rambling on, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Marr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa Marr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you liked them :)  

re: creatures &amp; lore
I guess with things like Ly Ergs &amp; Glaistigs &amp; all the rest I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessary to get into the history of the tradition or the minutia.  I reveal the details that make them relev to the tale I&#039;m telling.  Basically, treat them like I would any other character: only reveal what&#039;s plot-essential. The alternative--imho--is too &quot;data dump-y&quot; for me.   I&#039;m trying to keep to a close narrative pov, so as not to pull a reader out of the text for those &quot;as you know Jane . . .&quot; kinda explanations.  It&#039;s just a personal reading preference, so I guess it creeps into the writing part too. 

That said, my editors do read with an eye for &quot;what is assumed knowledge that isn&#039;t obvious.&quot;  I&#039;m so immersed in the lore that I forget sometimes that not everyone is.  My editors ping that for correction in the revision process.

*stops self before getting too much further into rambling over craft &amp; lore*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you liked them <img src='http://www.yanewyork.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>re: creatures &amp; lore<br />
I guess with things like Ly Ergs &amp; Glaistigs &amp; all the rest I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessary to get into the history of the tradition or the minutia.  I reveal the details that make them relev to the tale I&#8217;m telling.  Basically, treat them like I would any other character: only reveal what&#8217;s plot-essential. The alternative&#8211;imho&#8211;is too &#8220;data dump-y&#8221; for me.   I&#8217;m trying to keep to a close narrative pov, so as not to pull a reader out of the text for those &#8220;as you know Jane . . .&#8221; kinda explanations.  It&#8217;s just a personal reading preference, so I guess it creeps into the writing part too. </p>
<p>That said, my editors do read with an eye for &#8220;what is assumed knowledge that isn&#8217;t obvious.&#8221;  I&#8217;m so immersed in the lore that I forget sometimes that not everyone is.  My editors ping that for correction in the revision process.</p>
<p>*stops self before getting too much further into rambling over craft &amp; lore*</p>
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